Éand then also thinking about how the students feel so a lot of the time are when you're starting it's very you you're aware of how you feel but that's like mirrored in terms of how students feel as I think thinking about how students are feeling about the course as well it's really important what it would be like to put your first post up and then actually focusing on the ways in which you can deal with the dialogue so how can you what sort of dialogue do you want students to build do you want to give them a problem to which they all respond to one of the best ones and that I saw in the discussion board was someone had put up a post about banning Calpol and there was lots of responses like some students were either on a health course and some were parents and some where students to know and the news article sort of said you shouldn't have cowboy and all the parents came in saying yes you should okay I can't cope with that in my life and say how do you you know how do you create those sort of moments where you can really engage dealings and I think the way in which you structure dialogue is aware is this worth considering from that point of view the discussion forums are an interesting one and what I find as a student and online student and as an online tutor is that generally you need to weave the discussion board activities into some form of continuous assessment so it could be a very small number of marks and but having it integrators within the assessment means that they're more likely to engage so generally I choose discussion boards for reflective activities quite commonly so I might ask students to engage with resources and and say read a couple of papers watch a video and then write out their key reflections and of what they most recently one of the exercises of our students to do is reflect on their own academic practice and the impact of digital technologies on their academic practice and then students are asked to post up their reflections to the discussion boards they're generally not allowed to see anybody else's reflection until they've posted their own and then they are asked to peer review a comment on somebody else's reflections so you're getting the conversation started but it's formally woven into the assessment for the module so that there is some credit for it and there's a motivation for doing i